ThursdAI - May 14 - TML Interaction Models, Musk v Altman Disclosures, CW Sandboxes & /goal Takes Over

Episode Summary

TL;DR - May 14, 2026 Hosts and Guests Alex Volkov - AI Evangelist & Weights & Biases ( @altryne ) Co-Hosts - @WolframRvnwlf , @yampeleg , @nisten , @ldjconfirmed , @ryancarson Guest: Victor Perez @viccpoes - Co-founder & CEO, Krea Big Co LLMs + APIs Meta launches Muse Spark voice conversations across Meta AI app, WhatsApp, Instagram, FB, and Ray-Ban Meta glasses with real-time image gen, live camera AI, and instant Reels/maps integration ( X , Announcement ) Mira Murati’s Thinking Machines Lab drops Interaction Models: 276B MoE (12B active) trained from scratch for native real-time multimodal collaboration; 77.8 on FD-bench v1.5, 0.40s turn-taking latency, full-duplex audio/video/text ( X , Blog ) Musk v. Altman trial highlights: Musk wanted 90% equity, predicted “0%” success for OpenAI in 2018, Microsoft is now smallest mega-investor (SoftBank/Nvidia each ~$30B), Sutskever confirms “con

In This Episode

• 🤖 Alex's Agent Excitement (Hermes Switch)
• ⚡ TL;DR - Week in AI
• 🔓 Open Source AI & Supply Chain Attack
• 🔊 Meta Muse Spark Voice AI
• ⚡ Thinking Machines Interaction Models
• 🤖 Agentic Engineering: /goal & Hermes
• 🎨 Krea Intro with Vic Perez
• 🎨 Krea: The Company & Creative Tools
• 🎨 Krea 2 Model & Mood Boards
• ⚡ This Week's Buzz: CoreWeave Sandboxes
• ⚡ Musk v. Altman Trial
• ⚡ Wrap Up

Hosts & Guests

Alex Volkov

Host - W&B / CoreWeave

@altryne

Vic Peres

Krea

@viccpoes

Wolfram Ravenwolf

Weekly co-host, AI model evaluator - Independent AI evaluator (r/LocalLLaMA)

@WolframRvnwlf

Yam Peleg

Weekly co-host of ThursdAI - AI builder & founder

@Yampeleg

Ryan Carson

Weekly co-host of ThursdAI - AI educator & founder

@ryancarson

Nisten Tahiraj

Weekly co-host of ThursdAI - AI operator & builder

@nisten

By The Numbers

🤖 Alex's Agent Excitement (Hermes Switch)

Alex Volkov: So I think that,Wolfram, I'll get to you in a second. I'll just say what we're talking about, why we're talking about this banter instead of news.

• Folks, we have a fairly chill week, and, we have a guest coming up later on the show, Vic,Perez from Crea.
• But since it's a chill week, many of you who come to us on different events, you guys tell us that, you love the banter.
• So we'll banter, and I will join Ryan and say that I no longer have an OpenClaw running.

Alex Volkov 4:26

"So I think that,Wolfram, I'll get to you in a second. I see you have a comment. I'll just say what we're talking about, why we're talking about this banter instead of news."

⚡ TL;DR - Week in AI

This is the part of the show on ThursdAI where we talk about briefly about everything we're going to cover or everything that happened in the world of AI for last week. So in case you have missed anything, we're here to make sure that you're caught up.

• And, in this week's TLDR, this is May 14th with you, Alex Volkov, AI Evangelist with Weights & Biases.
• Our co-hosts for today, Wolfram "Raven" Wolfe, Yam Peleg, Nisten Tahiri, and Ryan Carson.
• hopefully we'll get LDJ at some point soon.

Alex Volkov 14:02

"This is the TLDR. This is the part of the show on ThursdAI where we talk about briefly about everything we're going to cover or everything that happened in the world of AI for last week. So in case you have missed anythi"

🔓 Open Source AI & Supply Chain Attack

Alex Volkov: All righty, so not a lot in open source in AI this week, but we will absolutely talk about the supply chain attack in a moment. But before this, I wanted to cover this, Fasteno Labs GLIGuard, super quick.

• I think this one comes from Lincoln, a friend of the pod.
• three hundred million parameter open source guardrail model that matches SOTA safety models up to ninety-three x its size.
• guardrails models are very important.

Alex Volkov 23:59

"All righty, so not a lot in open source in AI this week, but we will absolutely talk about the supply chain attack in a moment. But before this, I wanted to cover this, Fasteno Labs GLIGuard, super quick. I think this on"

🔊 Meta Muse Spark Voice AI

Alex Volkov: Meta launches Muse Spark powered voice conversations. I actually tested this one, and wow, this is like surprisingly good.

• So we've talked about Meta Superintelligence Labs for a while, right?
• Alex,Alex Wang from previously from Scale AI and,Musk poaching people for a hundred million dollar yearly packages, like crazy stuff, right?
• and we've been saying, "Hey, where is all these people's work?" So last month they launched Muse Spark, and actually it was decent, and it's really good at like different artificia

Alex Volkov 38:19

"Meta launches Muse Spark powered voice conversations. I actually tested this one, and wow, this is like surprisingly good. So we've talked about Meta Superintelligence Labs for a while, right? Alex,Alex Wang from previou"

⚡ Thinking Machines Interaction Models

Alex Volkov: speaking of products that are cool, and also interaction models, let's talk about Thinking Machine Interaction Models. I will pull up their kind of demo, I think is the best way to, to present this.

• So it's called the Interaction Models, and it's, basically what we have expected of the real time model, that you can talk to them and say, for the first time, I think we, you will
• And, then you can continue the conversation.
• And the coolest thing I found was when you were telling them to react to something, like another person entering the frame.

Alex Volkov 46:47

"speaking of products that are cool, and also interaction models, let's talk about Thinking Machine Interaction Models. Wolfram, you mentioned that. I will pull up their kind of demo, I think is the best way to, to presen"

🤖 Agentic Engineering: /goal & Hermes

Alex Volkov: but I wanna talk about the new Ralph. Yam, Ryan, Nisten, we talked about Ralph a while ago.

• And now, All the major labs are now adding, adding Ralph type things into their harnesses.
• I think the reason why we're here on Thursd AI is to show you a spotlight into something that's blowing up that you must absolutely know about.
• So if you are using these tools and you don't know about /go yet, /go is a command, it's like a skill, that turns Claude Code and Codex and Hermes into autonomous 24/7 AI employees

Alex Volkov 59:52

"but I wanna talk about the new Ralph. Yam, Ryan, Nisten, we talked about Ralph a while ago. And now, All the major labs are now adding, adding Ralph type things into their harnesses. So let's talk about /go. I think the"

🎨 Krea Intro with Vic Perez

Alex Volkov: I wanna introduce back Vic, Perez from Krea. Vic, introduce yourself, if you don't mind.

• It's been a while since we chatted, dude.
• Vic Peres: Yeah, no, it's been a while, and it's great to see, like, all the, how successful the podcast has been.
• Been working on AI plus creativity related projects since very long time ago, probably twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.

Alex Volkov 1:11:10

"I wanna introduce back Vic, Perez from Krea. Vic, welcome to the show."

🎨 Krea: The Company & Creative Tools

Alex Volkov: You guys have been kicking ass for a long time now. tell us about Krea as a company before we get to the model.

• Tell us about, what you guys do, what customers are you serving, what is Krea in the world of, GPT images there for people to just, try out the different things.
• Nana Banana has been, like, ruling the thing.
• what is Krea in the world of, among those?

Alex Volkov 1:11:45

"You guys have been kicking ass for a long time now. tell us about Krea as a company before we get to the model."

🎨 Krea 2 Model & Mood Boards

Vic Peres: So Krea 2 has been our baby for the past six or seven months. We've been, like, a almost half of the company has been 80 to 90% of their time dedicated to this project.

• And this came from, again, we wanna build creative tools.
• And you can do many things with APIs- what I just showed you with the Nana Wanana, like managing context for Nana Wanana and stuff like that.
• But, like I, I just remember the old days when like Kria was even starting, and you had access to so many models, and you could run these models in your computer, or you could have

Vic Peres 1:14:06

"So Krea 2 has been our baby for the past six or seven months. We've been, like, a almost half of the company has been 80 to 90% of their time dedicated to this project. Wow. And this came from, again, we wanna build crea"

⚡ This Week's Buzz: CoreWeave Sandboxes

Alex Volkov: So next up we have two more things. please stick with us, we have two more things.

• One of them is I really wanna, give you some highlights from the Musk v.
• Altman trial, which I listened to, and the final presentation is happening today.
• Hopefully, we'll be able to, also cover them.

Alex Volkov 1:19:45

"So next up we have two more things. please stick with us, we have two more things. One of them is I really wanna, give you some highlights from the Musk v. Altman trial, which I listened to, and the final presentation is"

⚡ Musk v. Altman Trial

Alex Volkov: I think the last thing that I want to talk about here is the Sam Altman v. I think that this is what we're gonna end the show with.

• we're a little bit, over, but I think it's very important to, to cover.
• have you guys been following at all?
• we talked about when Elon, sued, but now there is an actual trial going on, and I have some highlights here.

Alex Volkov 1:28:33

"I think the last thing that I want to talk about here is the Sam Altman v."

⚡ Wrap Up

Alex Volkov: this has been ThursdAI for May 14th. Next week, I'm going to Google I/O, and, expect a lot of news because as-- remember, always when Google I/O is about to release some stuff, OpenAI jumps in to try to cut them, before xAI jumps in last.

• Last Google I/O was crazy, and the Google I/O before was crazy.
• So I'm gonna be live from Google I/O, probably gonna record some stuff live there, and also we'll cover everything that happens in Google I/O on ThursdAI next week.
• So probably gonna be happening from home.